@1083 thanks for the advise, of course I also make plenty of complaints via www.bezoekbas.nl but as stated before whether Schiphol would take visible actions to improve the situation or it is just a shield to calm down the pressure from the community. Until now I just see the situation getting worst everyday. Before at least they respect the night time and early morning, but now the Buitenveldertbaan or Aalsmeerbaan are just intensively used even during late night, which fly through the most dense residential area out of all routes. What is all the saying about considering the less nuisance for locals then? I am not sure I see that kind of statement is taken under consideration at all. If Schiphol actually cares about the neighborhoods around itself, at least showing some action not just statements.